How to Build a Lifestyle by Design

Build A Lifestyle By Design

Jack Henderson:

Look, I wasn’t one of those people that hated my job. It brought me a good lifestyle and a lot of money. Um, and I enjoyed what I did, but now I sort of jumped into the buyer’s agent space part time for a few months I had to get into financial stuff in order, you know, with the properties and stuff like that. Jumping out of a career into uh, your own business, essentially you need to get the ducks in a line. So once I was doing it part time, I was tasting what the freedom felt like and that’s what got me even more hooked. And now I do it mate full time every single day. I work seven days a week, but it doesn’t feel like I work an hour. So it’s, it’s, it’s amazing.

Ben Handler:

Welcome to the buyer’s agent Institute show. The purpose of the show is to bring awareness to buyers agents to bring awareness to the career opportunities that the buyer’s agent sector is providing people to bring awareness around the value that buyers agents provide to people who need help buying property. Our goal with the show is to strip back and dive into the stories around the remarkable buyers agents who are paving the way forward in one of the fastest growing career sectors in real estate right now. Our guest today is young Jack Henderson. He’s 23 years old. He left school when he was 15 years old. He then jumped in with his old man and worked in the construction industry at age 18 he bought his first property at 20 years old. He then jumped into the mining industry where he was a machinery operator and during that time, up until now, he’s bought multiple properties and owns a multimillion dollar portfolio.

Ben Handler:

Jack right now is living his hobby. He’s currently a buyer’s agent. It’s released. Associates said, today we’re going to dive into his journey today. I’d like to introduce Jack Henderson. Welcome, mate. Thank you very much for having me, buddy. Absolute pleasure to have you here. Thank you. Thank you. I remember our first conversation we had and you were still in the mining areas. I think you’re driving a truck, possibly. Yes. Hopefully you didn’t have a beer in your hand. Yeah. That would maybe maybe say yes or no, and I could just feel the enthusiasm with what you’d obviously achieved. I mean, at your age, not many people. I mean that many properties and I feel like are as driven as you are and you know, have been. And so I was just looking forward to the opportunity of seeing you get into the buyer’s agent. I quit the nine to five. I’ve quit the nine to five mate and I’ve even got the shirt to prove it. I love it. So machinery operator, I mean, I, what

Jack Henderson:

Is it? Um, so I was a plant operator. Is that the, the official title? Um, and it’s essentially operating the heavy machinery in the construction and the mining industry. So the excavators, the graders, the, you know, the shovels, all the rest of it. Why’d you leave school at 15? Uh, it wasn’t by choice. I got expelled from, from two schools. Um, I wasn’t, uh, specifically a bad kid. Um, I just, I just, I knew school wasn’t for me and my mentality has always been, I want to learn from people who are in the position. I want to be in. So I guess school has a vital part in the, the, the start of your learning career. Essentially. You learn the basics of mathematics and English and all the rest of it. But I believe you hit a point where you can go in two directions. You can try and, you know, move into a job where you need formal education, you need a qualification or you can take the other path and sort of blaze your own trail. And I knew from 15 that I did not want to go down the path of going to university and getting it essentially a job for life. I wanted to, um, do my own thing.

Ben Handler:

Right. I’ve had so many people on the show who like you left school early and have built such incredible portfolio, isn’t it? Doing really well with their lives. And it’s just, I’m a big believer that you just don’t need to go school and go through that whole system and go to university or TAFE to be successful. Right. It’s, it’s not required.

Jack Henderson:

No, I look for some people that’s what they want to do. Some people want to be doctors, lawyers, you know, accountants and you need the formal education. Otherwise it’s not possible to do that role or it’s a very, it limits your possibilities. Um, but look, that wasn’t the career for me. And essentially I heard a, I heard a saying once, it was usually that the AA students worked with the D students. So the D students generally own the businesses that the H students worked for. And that’s always been my philosophy is, um, you know, I know what I’m good at and what I’m not good at a high, someone that’s better at it than me and essentially it to people who go to university. So

Ben Handler:

I love it. And it’s true. A lot of it’s true. When I think about, yeah,

Jack Henderson:

Well, you look at the, you know, the biggest companies in the world and the most innovative companies in the world, and generally the leaders are not formally qualified. They know their vision and their goal and they know that what they’re, you know, pluses and minuses are, and that, and they, they weigh in on their pluses and, and outsource their minuses. So this property 18, what inspired you for that? I guess backing myself into a corner, essentially getting expelled from school. Um, you know, go on and work with my father. Although I was earning good money. There’s still that thought in your head to think like what happens if my vision doesn’t come true essentially. So I wanted to sort of gift myself, I guess a financial, um, you know, like incentive. So, you know, buy something that if something does happen, you get there, you have something there essentially. Cause I had no formal education. It didn’t have a qualification in like a trade or anything like that. So property for me was, I’m a dad’s ain’t gone buy your property because there’s a mentality in Australia that everyone should own their own home. Um, and the second thought to it was if, if something does happen to me, at least I’ve got a property essentially. Yeah.

Ben Handler:

What were you mates thinking? Obviously you left school early at 18, you snapped up the first property and then early twenties you obviously accumulated more. What were your mates doing and what they think?

Jack Henderson:

Look, some of them, um, uh, are still with me and some of them are not, to be completely honest, that my philosophy around friends is a lot different than a lot of people. I don’t believe there is a lot of people in world with real friends, people who are in your lives for a reason, I believe. Um, and when they don’t need you for that reason, they, they go their separate ways. And so when I started doing my own thing, you know, people didn’t really need me in their lives anymore. I wasn’t going to school with them. So I, I found out really early that um, friends are not really friends essentially. So it didn’t really bother me what they thought. I knew what I was doing and I knew what my vision was. So what anyone thought of me didn’t really matter to me. And even to this day, I don’t really have friends I, I’ve grown up with because we’re all in different parts. And once you’re not on that same sort of vision and path, you just sort of go your separate ways.

Ben Handler:

Why have you or what has really motivated you? I guess I want to, I want to live up to the [inaudible]

Jack Henderson:

Potential. I know I have myself, so my biggest driving factor is myself and that’s it. So I know the vision I have and what I want to achieve and I guess it’s proving it to myself because I don’t really care what anyone else thinks about me. I want to go to bed at night and know that look, you’ve done the best she can. If it works out, it works out. If it doesn’t, I want to know that I give it everything I had. And if it doesn’t work out and you can say, Oh, let’s, I try it.

Ben Handler:

Do you find people who are really drawn to your story? I mean you’re, you’re jumping on the phone, I’m sure right now as you’re a buyer’s agent, talking to people, looking to build portfolios or buy their family homes, and I’m assuming that you own more property than some of the people you’re talking to and you could be half their age. Are they inspired you feel like when they hear your story? Yeah. Look to be completely honest, the majority of [inaudible]

Jack Henderson:

People I’ve worked with so far don’t even know my story. They just, I’m hungry. Like I’ll ring anyone and talk to anyone and I’m knowledgeable about property and in my core areas. So to the answer, their question is the majority people I’ve worked with thus far don’t know my story, but I believe with building the personal brand is sharing my story. The amount of people that haven’t essentially been clients yet, but I get messages daily that are inspired by my throat. So I went for a coffee with a guy yesterday who was a very, very, very successful real estate agent in Newcastle doing mono, probably 120 sales a year. And I had no idea this guy even knew who I was and just laid everything out, how much I’ve inspired him. He was, you know, mentioning photos that I’d put on Instagram and seeing things that I’ve said. So it’s like you don’t realize how many people actually see what you’re doing, but there is many people that pay attention.

Ben Handler:

Yeah, yeah. I didn’t mention on the intro regarding your personal brand and what you’ve been doing. I think most people when they start a business go start featuring on podcasts and sharing their story, getting editorials. But I mean you were doing that inherently before you even became a buyer’s agent, getting a lot of air time. Has that helped you? Massively. Um, even in the position, I mean

Jack Henderson:

Now with trilogy associates that wouldn’t have been, I guess as easy but didn’t have the personal brand or the story. Um, you know, to share with them and, and like, it’s very strange. Like I’ve come into this industry and probably one of the most competitive real estate industries in Australia and people feel like they’ve known me for such a long time when essentially I’ve never met half of these people, but I’ve talked to people on a daily basis and they’ve seen me on social media for three or four years and they, they think I’ve been in the real estate sphere when essentially I’m, I’m, I’m, you know, brand new.

Jack Henderson:

Well, I guess, you know, people see regardless if they see you from afar or close up social media now you can feel like you’ve known some of such a long time and know them intimately and essentially I’ve never ever met them. And that’s the joy of social media now building a personal brand. When I started, it wasn’t strategic, I just did it because someone reached out to me and said, you want to share your story on a podcast? And I did it. And then the feedback I got from one podcast, you know, lit something in my brain to think if this is what I can get with one and magnanimity of 2030 40 and start leveraging off of other people’s audiences essentially. So I think I’ve done probably 20 or 30 podcasts before I even jumped into the industry. I’ve done that, you know, videos and all the rest of it. So my name and my face was a very familiar face in the real estate industry. And I guess people trust and believe me more now because I didn’t have anything to sell back then, I just tell my story. This is what works and this is what does not work. So believe me or not, it doesn’t benefit me. So I guess it built trust and now I’m doing it as a business. Um, it’s made that transition a lot easier.

Ben Handler:

Yeah. I see how people recognize you and remember you, I mean all talking before we jumped onto this shoot just around, I was meeting someone earlier just for coffee before having a chat and I said, I’m just catching up with Jack Henderson. He’s jumping on the show. And he said, Oh, who’s that dude that wears the shorts? And I said, he’s going to be wearing the shorts. They’re like, things I do.

Jack Henderson:

Um, you know, something that you’ve taught me actually is the purple cow mentality now. I’ve always been a purple cow. Not bye bye in a meeting to do it. Just, it just my personality. That’s how I am. It’s how I talk. It’s how I act. It’s what I wear. I’ve always been a purple cow, but now I’m doing it more consciously. So the shorts, yeah, it’s summer. Why would anyone wear a suit? Doesn’t make sense to me. But when everyone’s wearing a suit and you wear shorts and you wear colorful shoes and you wear colorful, you know outfits and you know, I have a videographer with me, things like that. If it makes, it’s a talking point. If you rock up somewhere with the blue suit that everyone else has got on, then you have the same haircut and you wear the same clothes and you have the same watch you fit in and no one remembers you well when you stand out and do things a little bit different. People remember you like, like that guy, I’ve never met him who spoke on a menu in my life, but for him to recognize me and then talk to you about it, you don’t, you don’t realize personally how many people actually notice those sort of things.

Ben Handler:

Yeah, I was reading in that a dating book awhile ago. I think it’s called the game or by Neil Strauss. I actually just tend to make use Tinder, but they call it peacocking. When you, when you stand out, you know, wearing something that really goes people’s attention. So those shorts, do you plan on wearing them over summer? Constantly. And I actually just spoke to my tailor on the way here. I was saying, mate,

Jack Henderson:

Everyone I meet says something about the shorts because no, there is not one real estate or buyer’s agent in this area. Oh, I don’t really want to have an Australia that were shorts because I don’t know why they think they have to wear suits. Like there’s some sort of legality around wearing a suit. I just think, well I’ll wear shorts because it’s comfortable. And now it’s turned out to

Ben Handler:

Have a talking point. Is it a Newcastle thing?

Jack Henderson:

A little bit of may. Yeah. They love it up there. The boys. No, but like I think there’s, there’s, there’s a fine line between peacocking and being an egotistical wine carer. Essentially. I’m not egotistical law. I’m the most probably down to earth person. I believe that you can come across. But if I can stand out, why not? And if people remember me, why not? I think it’s great. I mean, um, anything you can do to really, as you were saying that purple cow concept of really sticking out because there is so much noise, right? This, everyone’s posting content online, everyone’s doing the same thing. It’s, it’s around how do you stick out, right? And like even little things. So like everyone’s posting color pictures online. I do black and white. So you scroll through your Facebook or Instagram feed, color, color, color, color, color, black and my pops up.

Jack Henderson:

You stop and look at that. You know, I, I’m, I plan to have a car that’s signed, written. So when you drive past that car, you turn your head regardless of what you think, as long as you, you need people to notice you. Because as we move into, I guess this new economy, the only thing you are going to have is your personal brand because everything else is going to be commoditized. Essentially. Skills can be commoditized. Anyone can can learn a skill if, if you know your business shuts down your, your job is essentially very replaceable. Whether it be with automation, AI, everything is commoditized in this new world. The only thing that is not commoditized is your personal brand. And if you build a personal brand that’s not necessarily around real estate, just you and your life and real estate just happens to be a part of this journey.

Jack Henderson:

I can pivot into any industry I want because people know me for Jack Henderson, not as a real estate agent or a buyer’s agent. So true. What are the plans for Jack Anderson? 2020. Um, I have obviously some financial goals, which I’m very, very on track to doing. Um, my biggest personal thing is I want to hire my mum full time. Hi, your mom. Yeah. So my first two hires will be a full time videographer, so it’s five, seven days a week, whatever it is. I’ll have a full time videographer and I want to hire my mom. My mom’s more of a a meaning thing to me. So like, no, she’s getting to an age where she’s almost finished working. I’d love to bring her into my life and look, it’s not going to be the most dollar productive, you know, use of my money. But on a personal level, it’s going to be very meaningful to me to so she can, you know, work her final working, um, years close to me and watch me grow as a human being and watch my business grow.

Jack Henderson:

And I think it’d be a really special thing. And having the full time videographer is essentially, um, you can make yourself look a lot bigger, um, than, than a lot of the big businesses. And that, that that’s a huge gap in the market. I see right now is real estate is an industry that everyone likes in Australia regardless of if you’re selling, you’re buying, you’re renovating. That’s why shows like the block do so well. That’s why shows like your real estate, your million dollar, listen to York do so well. People love real estate. So I think, you know, someone in my position, I’ve walked through beautiful homes on an on an everyday basis. I met incredible people and we just think it’s so normal. So if I can document my daily life that people think is so incredible, that I think is so normal, I think, you know, brand and exposure is going to be huge and content is everything now. So that’s awesome. I think the ROI on having a full time buddy over for it will be through the roof.

Ben Handler:

That’s awesome. I mean to two key goals is obviously hiring your mom and get full time videographer and really building your personal brand. Exactly. And then look, I’ve got an end goal,

Jack Henderson:

Um, in mind and it doesn’t, it’s, it’s not as a buyer’s agent, I want to have a boutique development business. Um, and that’s a little bit inspired by Tim Gurner. I want to have, have a, there’s a lot of developers out there and they change every time they do a development of different names. So it’s this name, it’s that name. I want to have a brand that’s recognized there. If I call it the brand Henderson, when a Henderson building gets built in a certain suburb, you don’t say I live at 56 George street. You say, I live in Henderson Rose Bay. I want to build a boutique brand and inside that I want to have it that you do not need to leave that building. And I think moving into the world that we’re moving into, that’s going to be possible. Everything’s going to be your fingertips. You want the best chef in Sydney to come and cook for you and make it happen. You want anything you can think of? I think yeah, sorta like a, like a hotel facility, but in a residential building you’ve got gotta reserve me a lot there. But yeah, exactly. Yeah. That’s a few people on the list.

Ben Handler:

We intend to since starting,

Jack Henderson:

I don’t, I don’t know an actual date, but I think, um, and this is a little bit strategic as well in terms of in this industry, I’m going to meet a lot of people and those people are going to have to be in real estate and you know, you’re going to meet developers and I’m going to have access to a lot of property that the general public not gonna have access to. So as a client that’s very beneficial and personally that’s going to be very beneficial moving forward. So yeah.

Ben Handler:

What have you learned about yourself in the short period of time of leaving the mining space and now effectively you’re running your own business within a business? Are there any key things you’ve learned?

Jack Henderson:

Um, that’s not hard. Everyone’s lazy. I’ve learnt that like about the concept I had before moving into the industry. Like I work in the Eastern suburbs of Sydney and it’s, so it’s one of the most competitive markets. It’s probably where buyer’s agents are most accepted in Australia. And my concept before moving into this space was they’ve got it tied up. Why would someone use it, you know, a fresh kid on the block when there’s people here with 15 years experience. And that’s not true at all because my track record in the short period of time, I’m not taking clients from anyone else. That’s just an untapped market out there. Um, personally I’ve learned a lot in terms of, you know, being young, you, you have a, not obligation, but it’s normal for young people to go out and party and sort of waste their weekends and you know, not think any of it.

Jack Henderson:

When you’ve got a full time job, you know, Monday is going to come around, you’re going to get paid the following week, now having your business, um, you go out in the weekends and, and sort of enjoy yourself Mondays or Tuesdays right off and you’re not getting paid. So it’s changed my perspective on what’s important. So now, um, you know, it’s something I’ve learned a you, I’m up early, I’ve got a morning routine and that’s what I enjoy doing. I don’t, it’s not forceful where I used to get out of work, go into the mines or fuck it out. It’s five o’clock in the morning, I gotta go to work now I get up cause I’m like, yeah, let’s go get it. You know, it’s enjoyable. You’re doing sunrises in the morning. 100%. I’m doing yoga. I’m a vegetarian. Like if you were to honestly like you and you knew me six to 12 months ago, if you, if you’re supposed to tell you then that I’d be there, stop a person.

Jack Henderson:

Look, I’m still myself. But now I’m a lot more inquisitive around like why, why would someone do yoga? Why would someone be vegetarian? Where before I just make an assumption, Oh that’s gay, or whatever it is. You know what I mean? Like you just make that assumption because it’s not what you’d like doing. But now it’s something I’m more, I’m adapting to is instead of making a judgment before you do it, do it and then make a judgment. So I did yoga and then I was like, wow, this is a lot harder than what it looks and it’s good for my brain and I feel I feel great. Then the vegetarian thing, I was like, okay, I’ll try it. People do it for a reason, so I’ll try it. So I jumped on it and now I’m addicted to it and I feel great and I go to eat meat and it’s like, Oh, I don’t feel good.

Jack Henderson:

So now I’m in that I’m in that mentality of before I judged something, give it a go and then make a judgment cause that’s educated judgment. You said earlier that you didn’t hate what you’re doing when you were a plant operator. Yeah. Now obviously it seems like with your career right now you’re doing what you love, like buying property. Does it feel like you’re working now? No, that’s the thing. Like I work probably double, not double the hours, but a normal day for me starts at five regardless if I’m actually working, I’m still up doing something productive for my day and I, I finished work at eight or nine o’clock, 10 o’clock I’m still doing emails and texting and talking to people. So essentially you’re still working so you’re working more hours. But it’s enjoyable like, and who knows? It might be enjoyable in five years time, but at this present moment, having the choice to do what I want and the, the decisions I make only impact me if I don’t get up and go to work or get up and do what I have to do.

Jack Henderson:

It impacts no one else except myself. So when you make the choice, you make a conscious decision in terms of, okay, if I don’t do this, this is the impact and if I’m willing to take that impact and I won’t do it. But if you do this and this is the benefit, I remember you did your first deal, I think, was it in the first week? How did that go down? To be completely honest, it wasn’t a good, like, it wasn’t an incredible feeling because like I sorta knew, like I had this vision in my mind that it was just everything that’s happening feels so normal. Do you know what I mean? Like I had this vision that I knew I’m Kay, I know I’m capable of it. So it’s not like it was a big like, wow, wow. I just knew it was gonna happen. So I did the deal and then it just went on my day. It’s a good feeling. And it was, it was good because it was a real, a really good friend of mine. But I’m, I have a vision and I have, I know I’m a very driven person and I know what I’ve achieved up to this date. So I know things that are going to happen are going to happen and as a result of me doing what I’m doing and it’s, it’s just feels normal, I guess.

Ben Handler:

Real estate agents I’ve been, I’ve been seeing online, I mean you talked at the black and white videos and I think they’re really great. They do stand out. And I have noticed that in such a short period of time you’re getting a lot of traction with real estate agents. Have you found it difficult building relationships with them? No. Look, when I build a relationship with someone, I don’t

Jack Henderson:

Care if they’re a real estate agent or a mortgage broker or whatever. I build a relationship with a human being. So if I don’t like you as a human being, regardless if you’re going to send me a million leads at time, I want to talk to you cause I don’t like you and I don’t want to do business with you. So I think the thing is, and I think that having that approach, when I go and see someone and meet someone for the first time, if I get along with that person, that’s the relationship. If business flows on from that as as a consequence, then sure. But if it doesn’t, I’m still gonna you know, be friends with that person cause I like them. So I think that’s how I’ve gained traction so, so quickly. It’s not fake. You’re not trying to have a coffee every week with them because you want business. I made out with these people because I like them. So I think that that’s, that’s the difference where I see a lot of people, you know, they’ll see a big real estate agent or someone, they believe that they can bring them a lot of business and regardless if they liked the person or not, or like their ethics or what they’re about, they’ll still chase that person cause they want the business where I’m contrarian to that. And I think it’s a lot more beneficial because it’s a natural consequence. It’s not something that feels forced.

Ben Handler:

Obviously you seem a bit different in terms of most millennials out there, like they’re at the pub getting smashed or I’m still at the pub. I still know from what, from what who I meet. They don’t seem typically as driven as you like. What? What would be some advice to people out there who would just, you know, you know, working for someone, not really pursuing their passion, their purpose.

Jack Henderson:

No. I’ve found, and I’ve been very blessed to be around some very influential and very wealthy people. It’s such a young age. It’s just happened as a natural consequence of the places I’ve been in. The people I’ve met and something that people have so wrong is they think money brings happiness. So people, the only reason someone stays in a job is because of money. That’s it. I didn’t stay there because of any other reason. If you didn’t have to pay any bills and someone said you all your bills are covered, go do what you want, you do it because there’s no financial sacrifice. So people are chasing money because they believe once I get to a certain dollar figure or a certain amount of assets or certain whatever it is, it’s going to be a fulfilling and a happiness feeling. The things I’ve learned is it’s not true.

Jack Henderson:

Money does not bring you happiness, and I’m sure you’re very aware of that at the start of most people’s career. They’re chasing the shiny watch and the fancy car and they believe that this is going to bring them some sort of happiness and the perspective on what other people think of them. That’s what makes them happy. The reason someone wears a $100,000 watch, it’s not because they like it, it’s because when they walk down the street, they want someone to go, Oh, look at that watch. You know what I mean? Like it’s very rare to actually find a car enthusiast that drives a Ferrari because he loves a Ferrari. He drives a Ferrari because you want people to turn their neck. So it’s a very, very empty feeling. And it’s a saying that people say is, I’d rather it cry in my Ferrari until you’re crying in your Ferrari because that’s what happens.

Jack Henderson:

He gets to that point. You think it’s going to, you know, fill the void, that empty, sad, void in your body. And essentially it just makes it bigger cause you hit that point and going, wow, what else now? And I’m very lucky to have learnt that. So the biggest thing is chase happiness. You know, what makes you happy? Do it. And the money will come as a consequence. I’m just lucky that property pays well if you do it right. So it’s a natural consequence of doing something I love and it brings in a good income,

Ben Handler:

Very wise made I have to say, I’m just wanna acknowledge you and recognize you because I mean you definitely out of the norm for people that I’m meeting your age and what you’ve actually achieved. You’d been in the trenches, you’ve built the portfolio, you’re now helping other people. So well done for getting out of what you’re doing to really pursue your passion.

Jack Henderson:

Yeah, you’re, you’re a, you’re a massive contributor to that. I actually remember the first conversation we had, now you say that I, um, I seen, cause you were still at C H when you launch his business. And I remember seeing a Facebook ad saying the newer millennial advice agents and I was one of the first students to do the pre signup thing. And I remember you called me. Um, and this, I, I never would have done this unless it was for you because essentially my philosophy was, okay, I’ll, I’ll live out my early 20 years. I’ll end the getting from in the mines. I go on holidays twice a year and you know, enjoy this life. And then I’ll hit a point and then when I’m finished being young and dumb, that’s when I’ll do it. And now thinking back on that, that never would have happened because you hit 27, you have a girlfriend, you have kids, and you have more and more commitments and then the excuses get bigger and bigger and you never do it. So you pushing me in terms of, come on, let’s do it. Let’s do it. Let’s do it. I never would have done it and essentially, so I’m very grateful for that. And then even which relieves associates, there was an introduction through you, so you’ve obviously seen something in myself where your, your name’s on the line essentially, so I’m very grateful. Yeah, thank you man. I appreciate it. And where can people find you? Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram. Just under Jack Henderson. Truly his associates as website.

Ben Handler:

Yeah. Thanks mate. I appreciate it. It’s been good to chat. It’s great to see your story. And I mean I can’t wait to see 2020 what’s going to happen? I mean I want to see this, the Henderson, I want to get a lot there. So get me on the waiting list. Eastern suburbs, I love the first one and keep wearing the shorts and nice legs. I hope everyone enjoyed this episode. For those of you who want to check out Jack Foley social profiles, you won’t miss him. It’ll be any shorts. You’ll see his black and white videos. He will have his full time videographer with him shortly. I highly recommend you reach out to Jack if you, especially looking for investment properties or even owner occupies in the East. Jack is your man. He’s young, but he knows what he’s doing. He’s been in the trenches, he’s built the portfolio. He knows everything about property. He’s passionate and he’s honest. So check him out. Hope today was useful. See you next week.

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